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re: utopia, I guess it could partly be an extension of my feeling very glad that the people I love have gotten to exist. If I imagine Amun-Ra offering Cleopatra a massive party if she agrees to subsequently blow up the world, I think it's really important that she answer 'No' to that -- otherwise none of us would get to exist, and that's not a matter of indifference!

Another thought is that it is very literally nihilistic to deny positive value. If utopia is no better than a barren rock, then you're saying utopia has *no value*. That's nihilism! Seems bad to me. I think we should appreciate good lives as something that's genuinely good, not just kinda-pretend-good-while-those-people-are-around-to-complain-about-our-saying-otherwise.

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