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Bentham's Bulldog's avatar

Chat GPT wrote a poem about this argument.

Person affecting views in population ethics,

Raise objections with their implications,

A barren rock, just as good as utopia?

Such claims bring forth ethical complications.

How can we value an empty place,

Over a world full of love and grace?

Is it fair to equate a void to paradise,

And make both seem like they're in the same place?

The value of life is in its living,

Its richness, joy, and love it's giving,

To suggest a barren rock is equal to utopia,

Is to ignore the beauty in living.

A utopia might not exist today,

But the hope for a better world leads the way,

To settle for less and call it the same,

Is to make morality just a game.

Let us strive for the best we can achieve,

For a world of happiness and love we can conceive,

Where every life has value and meaning,

And barren rocks remain barren, unfeeling.

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HeroicVenko's avatar

In addition to my last comment, here a some responses from a different post (https://www.reddit.com/r/negativeutilitarians/comments/1gl5m9g/dont_valorize_the_void/)

3. "The people with horrible lives that will be created until we achieve utopia are the kid in the basement."

4. "The problem with this argument is that it doesn't recognize the fact that societies and civilizations go through cycles of booms and bust, do even if we achieve "utopia" it's would be unwise to assume that we would not regress again."

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