Life can be good, in absolute (non-comparative) terms: something that one should be positively glad of, and that is worth promoting (all else equal). When death would deprive someone of a good future, it is comparatively bad (both for the individual, and simpliciter), and we accordingly have strong moral reasons—stemming from both person-directed and undirected beneficence—to promote the better alternative of longer happy life.
An attenuated version of the same reasoning applies to the prospect of failing to bring a good life into existence. This, too, is comparatively bad—but only “simpliciter”, as nothing can be good or bad for those who do not exist. And so we have weaker (only undirected) moral reasons of procreative beneficence, to want new good lives to exist. Still, these can add up, and make the prospect of extinction extremely bad indeed: overall vastly higher stakes than we tend to find elsewhere.
I think these claims are very commonsensical. Others sometimes appeal to confused philosophical reasoning to try to overturn these commonsense claims. In this post, I’ll explain where I think that reasoning goes awry.
The Epicurean Fallacy: Death
I had a friend in grad school who emphatically insisted that painless death was no harm, as there would no longer be anyone there to be harmed. (“Where is the harm!?” I can still hear her demand.) I take the most defensible view in this vicinity to be that present existence is a pre-requisite for suffering absolute harms.1 But it doesn’t follow that death is harmless, because absolute neutrality doesn’t preclude comparative harm: being bad in virtue of depriving you of a future that would have been absolutely good for you.
For ease of reference, let’s speak of the ‘Epicurean fallacy’ as the invalid inference from “no absolute harm” to “no big deal”. So long as the good things in life matter immensely (as we must accept on pain of valorizing the void), their loss can be a big deal! We should strongly prefer that valuable futures be realized. That’s why premature death is such a tragedy. The absolute neutrality of death does not make it an acceptable alternative to continued good life.2 Saving lives remains, as commonsense would have it, an important moral priority.
The Epicurean Fallacy: Extinction
Torres seemingly commits the Epicurean fallacy in their defense of the “Equivalence” view that there is no harm in Being Extinct over and above that of Going Extinct:
We argue that there can’t be anything bad about Being Extinct because there wouldn’t be anyone around to experience this badness. And if there isn’t anyone around to suffer the loss of future happiness and progress, then Being Extinct doesn’t actually harm anyone.
This repeats the Epicurean Fallacy of conflating absolute and comparative badness.3 The Void (or Being Extinct) is neutral in absolute terms. But to establish that “there can’t be anything bad” about absolute neutrality, you must first argue that there can’t be any better alternative. If it is possible for existence to be (very) good, then the neutrality of non-existence is comparatively (very) bad.
This elementary observation about the logic of value is why I keep arguing that the void-embracing view is objectionably nihilistic. I think that life can be good! When anti-natalists argue that it would have been better for our children not to exist, that constitutes a deeply disrespectful denial of the value of my son’s life (amongst others). I think that proper respect for persons requires recognizing that our lives, when good for us, are good simpliciter, and make the world (pro tanto) better for their presence. We should, I believe, generally view each other as better than nothing.4
Inconsistent Anticomparativism
Some theorists affirm Existence Anticomparativism: the view that the value of existence and non-existence cannot be compared. The idea is that existence cannot be better or worse for you, since the alternative is (for you) “undefined” rather than “zero” welfare. When combined with the individual-affecting principle that outcomes can only be better or worse insofar as they’re better or worse for some individuals or other, it would seem to follow that Being Extinct is unobjectionable.
But this reasoning is fallacious, and nobody follows it consistently. In particular, everyone agrees that miserable existence is morally objectionable, such that we have moral reasons (of procreative beneficence or non-maleficence) to not bring miserable lives into existence. So existence undeniably can be morally compared to non-existence. The easiest way to make sense of this (following Jeff McMahan, iirc) is to hold that miserable existence is non-comparatively bad for the person who endures it. We have obvious moral reasons to avert (uncompensated) non-comparative bads to individuals, instead preferring worlds where they never exist.
Note that there is (as far as I’m aware) no philosophical basis for then denying the same reasoning as applied to non-comparative goods. A happy existence is clearly non-comparatively good for the person who enjoys it. And so we have obvious moral reasons to promote non-comparative goods to individuals, preferring worlds where they happily exist over worlds where they do not.
So individual-affecting principles, at the broadest level of generality, offer no reason whatsoever to deny the possibility of procreative beneficence, or moral reasons to bring good lives into existence.5 Principled support for this denial would depend upon a kind of strict anticomparativism that nobody considers acceptable. Instead, defenders of narrow individual-affecting views (i.e., who deny the possibility of procreative beneficence) just posit an ad hoc “asymmetry”, granting non-comparative bads but denying non-comparative goods from existence, without any apparent principled basis whatsoever for the inconsistent treatment of the two. It’s very odd.
(If you know of a principled basis for the asymmetry that I’m missing, please share it in the comments.)
Is the Asymmetry “more intuitive”?
Some people report finding the asymmetry “intuitive”, however unprincipled it may be. I’m not entirely sure what they have in mind here, since the asymmetry itself is a rather abstruse technical claim that has many implications, some intuitive (no procreative obligations!), others decidedly less so (denying that our kids are better than nothing, or that utopia is better than a barren rock). But the intuitive implications are also securable without the asymmetry, whereas the costly implications seem distinctive to the view. So that makes it look pretty bad overall, in reflective equilibrium.
(See also ‘Puzzles for Everyone’, where I rebut the common misconception that denying value to creating happy lives suffices to avoid “repugnant” quantity-quality tradeoffs. There I argue that the problems simply re-emerge within a life.)
All in all, I’m not aware of any undefeated reason to deny that our lives can have (absolute) value, short of outright nihilism. But if you think I’m missing something, counterarguments are welcome, as always.
Why it matters
I think there are many reasons to care about this abstract theoretical issue.
First, as indicated above, I think it’s essential to properly valuing people. It’s deeply disrespectful to deny that another person (who is, themselves, happy to exist) is better than nothing. We should not regard each other’s existence with bleak indifference.
Second, it makes a significant difference to how we view the prospect of extinction. Yes, even “standard” (narrowly near-termist) cost-benefit analysis entails that global catastrophic risk reduction should be a major public-policy priority, just based on the risk to the existing population. But the wrong view here could easily motivate anti-natalist “voluntary human extinction”, which would be literally the worst thing ever. It’s really worth not making mistakes that astronomically great.
Third and finally, the pro-existence6 view entails further interesting philosophical updates (esp. concerning how to think about ordinary “risk aversion” and “harm/benefit asymmetries”), as I argue in ‘Don't Valorize the Void’.
Though I’m personally inclined to reject even this principle. I think it makes sense to believe in posthumous harms, e.g. to the enduring success of one’s projects, which could make a timeless difference to one’s lifetime (success and hence) well-being.
Though it’s true that some fates would be even worse. So death may be acceptable—indeed, positively welcomed—when the realistic alternative would be worse.
Also worth noting that the foundational insight of all population ethics is the non-identity problem that you can’t infer “not anything bad about it” from “it doesn’t harm anyone” when the act in question affects who exists. This is decisively proven by Parfit’s Depletion scenario. (Follow the link for details.)
I’m continually horrified by the fact that many (otherwise decent) people seem to deny this. I think such a denial has a strong claim to being the single most morally abhorrent view held by a non-trivial number of contemporary philosophers. By contrast, I get the sense that most of my colleagues think it is morally worse to have an incorrect view of the metaphysics of gender. I find the whole situation very strange.
Two terminological notes: (i) It seems common to speak of “person-affecting” or “individual-affecting” views precisely as those that deny that we have non-instrumental reasons to create happy lives. As indicated, I think this is a mistake. Procreative decisions “affect” the created individual in very obvious—and morally significant—ways! (ii) The term ‘procreative beneficence’ may be most familiar from Savulescu’s principle that parents have reason to try to create happier rather than less-happy lives, insofar as they’re able. Obviously I’m using it in a broader way here, not restricted to “same number” cases, but extended to reasons to procreate at all.
I wish “pro-life” wasn’t already taken! Incidentally, see ‘Utilitarianism and Abortion’ if you have any concerns on that account.
Actualism and Frick's views imply the procreation asymmetry, but I wouldn't consider them absolute views or standard Existence Anticomparativism. Rather, I'd still consider them merely comparative views (although we could argue about definitions). They allow certain kinds of comparisons, but for principled reasons and without directly assuming asymmetry between apparent goods and apparent bads or asserting the existence of absolute harms while denying absolute benefits:
1. Actualism allows actual beings to compare their lives to nonexistence (or us to do so on their behalf), but not non-actual beings to compare their lives with anything (or us to do so on their behalf). That seems intuitive to me, because the actual and only the actual can have objects that exist in the universe we can point to in order to ground their interests (e.g. brains with interest-generating and identity-establishing structures*).
2. Frick's conditional reasons are of the form "I have reason to (if I do p, do q)" (or Bykvist and Campbell, 2021's contrastive version "I have reason to (if I do p, do q) rather than not (if I do p, do q)").
If all person-regarding reasons are actualist or conditional (as I think is assumed in actualism and Frick's views, respectively), then we get the procreation asymmetry. You also concede (or at least don't strongly object to) actualist reasons and so at least weak asymmetry in Rethinking the Asymmetry, as "partiality towards the actual". The existence of absolute reasons seems to require more than the existence of actualist reasons or Frick's conditional reasons, at least with respect to apparently good and bad lives, because actualist and conditional reasons (at least with respect to individual welfare) each have absolute counterparts that make stronger claims, and there are more absolute reasons. So, it seems that there's an extra burden of proof to establish absolute reasons.
I think we can also use Frick's conditional reasons (and only conditional reasons), along with transitivity and the independence of irrelevant alternatives, to establish absolute harms while denying absolute goods, basically antifrustrationism (e.g. Fehige, 1998).
*This is a bit subtle, because we want to consider the whole of the future, including future actual beings, not just presently actual beings. This depends on specific views of the nature of time, although I wouldn't be surprised if the differences turned out to be merely normative, anyway. It also seems like you're sympathetic to something similar, with "timeless difference" and 4-dimensionalism, as you discuss in https://www.philosophyetc.net/2009/08/must-harms-be-temporally-located.html. Another possibility is Bader's account.
Frick, J. (2020). Conditional reasons and the procreation asymmetry. Philosophical Perspectives, 34(1), 53-87. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/phpe.12139
Bykvist, K., & Campbell, T. (2021). Frick’s Defence of the Procreation Asymmetry2. CLIMATE ETHICS, 263. https://www.iffs.se/media/23375/climate_ethics_vol4_webb.pdf#page=264
Fehige, C. (1998). A Pareto principle for possible people. Preferences, 508-43. https://www.fehige.info/pdf/A_Pareto_Principle_for_Possible_People.pdf
Bader, R. M. (2021). The Asymmetry. Ethics and Existence: The Legacy of Derek Parfit, 15. https://homeweb.unifr.ch/BaderR/Pub/Asymmetry%20%28R.%20Bader%29.pdf
>> "Note that there is (as far as I’m aware) no philosophical basis for then denying the same reasoning as applied to non-comparative goods. A happy existence is clearly non-comparatively good for the person who enjoys it."
I don't know about _denying_ the reasoning for non-comparative goods, but I think there really is an asymmetry between harms and goods, which is that the badness of suffering is surely the most undeniable moral fact we know; there is, to my intuition, no comparably obvious moral fact about goodness. Even though I _have_ a happy existence, I am much less certain when I introspect on the matter that this constitutes some non-comparative good--I honestly cannot tell you that I feel benefitted by my reasonably happy existence. But I am as certain as I am about anything at all, that if I were to be tortured for 100 years, that would be bad, and that I would be harmed by such an existence. I just genuinely, truly, feel orders of magnitude more confident drawing conclusions based on the badness of suffering than on the goodness of well-being.
The above is compounded by the fact that there is _much_ more disagreement as to what even constitutes well-being than what constitutes suffering--it just seems to me undeniable that the role that suffering and well-being should play in our theorizing has to be asymmetrical, even if only for reasons of uncertainty over definition.
>> "denying that our kids are better than nothing, or that utopia is better than a barren rock"
>>"It’s deeply disrespectful to deny that another person (who is, themselves, happy to exist) is better than nothing."
FWIW, I don't feel disrespected by the denial that I am better than nothing, despite being currently happy with my existence. I think some of the claims you make along these lines in the article undermine the argument: they feel like emotive appeals intended to short-circuit arguments. Further, it seems to me that most of the disagreement comes down to intuitions about non-existence and how it should be valued relative to happy existence, so these emotive appeals simply end up reading as rather strident restatements of your intuitions on the matter (to me, at least, who doesn't share these intuitions). Finally, "disrespect" is an odd term of analysis to bring in here; I'm sure many deontologists object that the utilitarian denial of intrinsic rights is "disrespectful" to people, but I doubt that would bother you (nor should it, in my opinion).
>> "But the wrong view here could easily motivate anti-natalist “voluntary human extinction”, which would be literally the worst thing ever. It’s really worth not making mistakes that astronomically great."
I think the second sentence supplies a resolution to the first that takes a lot of the sting out of this argument as a criticism of the asymmetry: I presume much of what makes human extinction the worst thing ever is that it is _irrevocable_ in a way that almost no other decision can be--so under conditions of moral uncertainty, even theories that say that voluntary extinction is okay should be extremely unwilling to endorse it in practice.